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		<title>Comment on The Problem With Retainers by Rob Typher</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2009/08/03/the-problem-with-retainers/comment-page-1/#comment-10145</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Typher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have contemplated incorporating a retainer in my currently AUM fee.  It seems logical to assign the retainer portion to financial planning other than managing investments, and then of course the AUM would be assigned to investment management.  

Although I consider my financial planning services (outside of investments) to be a real value, I am afraid to assign a quarterly value to them.  My clients definitely like the fact that I have &quot;skin in the game&quot; with their assets, but at the same time I don&#039;t feel they value my planning skills as much as they should.  And therein lies the question:  Do the fail to assign a value to these skills because I do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have contemplated incorporating a retainer in my currently AUM fee.  It seems logical to assign the retainer portion to financial planning other than managing investments, and then of course the AUM would be assigned to investment management.  </p>
<p>Although I consider my financial planning services (outside of investments) to be a real value, I am afraid to assign a quarterly value to them.  My clients definitely like the fact that I have &#8220;skin in the game&#8221; with their assets, but at the same time I don&#8217;t feel they value my planning skills as much as they should.  And therein lies the question:  Do the fail to assign a value to these skills because I do?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Retention May Become a Big Issue in 2010 by Steve</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2009/12/20/why-retention-may-become-a-big-issue-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-10092</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angie is absolutely right.  There are NexGen employees out there that are just waiting for the economic dust to settle and constantly keeping an eye open for better opportunities.  Smart firms looking for great employees should start searching now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angie is absolutely right.  There are NexGen employees out there that are just waiting for the economic dust to settle and constantly keeping an eye open for better opportunities.  Smart firms looking for great employees should start searching now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Problem With Retainers by Harry Scheyer</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2009/08/03/the-problem-with-retainers/comment-page-1/#comment-9492</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Scheyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Angela, 

    I have been using retainers very successfully for many years.  I believe retainers for financial planning clients versus primary investment management clients are the professional way to go for the basic reason that our value proposition has really nothing to do what the market does on the short term. It sends the wrong message that might make your clients comfortable but in reality is a major distortation. The distoration is all  the money they overpaid advisors who never realized the appreciation in clients portfiolios when the markets where overvalued ! Once clients understand this distortation I think fair and appropriate retainers based on longterm assets,  goals and complexity is what would make what we do more of a profession.  Retainers are about matching our true value propositon to the compensation . Unfortuantely for most client too many advisors are really asset gathers in financial planninng clothing. As long as there clients that think that their advisor is alignment with them because they charge AUM fees this myth will persist mainly to the benefit of the AUM advisor- which seems to be real concern in your article.  Would be interested in your reply. Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Angela, </p>
<p>    I have been using retainers very successfully for many years.  I believe retainers for financial planning clients versus primary investment management clients are the professional way to go for the basic reason that our value proposition has really nothing to do what the market does on the short term. It sends the wrong message that might make your clients comfortable but in reality is a major distortation. The distoration is all  the money they overpaid advisors who never realized the appreciation in clients portfiolios when the markets where overvalued ! Once clients understand this distortation I think fair and appropriate retainers based on longterm assets,  goals and complexity is what would make what we do more of a profession.  Retainers are about matching our true value propositon to the compensation . Unfortuantely for most client too many advisors are really asset gathers in financial planninng clothing. As long as there clients that think that their advisor is alignment with them because they charge AUM fees this myth will persist mainly to the benefit of the AUM advisor- which seems to be real concern in your article.  Would be interested in your reply. Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Problem With Retainers by George Hara</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2009/08/03/the-problem-with-retainers/comment-page-1/#comment-9490</link>
		<dc:creator>George Hara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is the AUM structured &#039;independently&#039; from the portfolio managed? Is it calculated quarterly or is there a trend line allowing the client to observe when the amount was gathered and reported. In any reporting, similar to back dating of stock options it becomes an issue. One date for each reporting period should be consistently used. The 50/50 arbitrary or would it be 30/70 so more skin is in the game?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is the AUM structured &#8216;independently&#8217; from the portfolio managed? Is it calculated quarterly or is there a trend line allowing the client to observe when the amount was gathered and reported. In any reporting, similar to back dating of stock options it becomes an issue. One date for each reporting period should be consistently used. The 50/50 arbitrary or would it be 30/70 so more skin is in the game?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Retention May Become a Big Issue in 2010 by Bill Winterberg</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2009/12/20/why-retention-may-become-a-big-issue-in-2010/comment-page-1/#comment-8400</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Winterberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angie, I applaud this post! Both firm owners as well as employees (NexGen or otherwise) need to expose this elephant in the room.

One point that I&#039;ll add is that the firms which are best positioned for recovery are now able to recruit and &quot;cherry pick&quot; the best talent in the area from other firms. These employers of choice have healthy margins, scalable processes and procedures, and an appealing company culture and work environment.

Therefore, owners need to be very serious about approaching star employees not only with appropriate retention incentives, but also with a commitment to make changes at the firm to cultivate all employees&#039; career development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angie, I applaud this post! Both firm owners as well as employees (NexGen or otherwise) need to expose this elephant in the room.</p>
<p>One point that I&#8217;ll add is that the firms which are best positioned for recovery are now able to recruit and &#8220;cherry pick&#8221; the best talent in the area from other firms. These employers of choice have healthy margins, scalable processes and procedures, and an appealing company culture and work environment.</p>
<p>Therefore, owners need to be very serious about approaching star employees not only with appropriate retention incentives, but also with a commitment to make changes at the firm to cultivate all employees&#8217; career development.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Problem With Retainers by John Liechty</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2009/08/03/the-problem-with-retainers/comment-page-1/#comment-8278</link>
		<dc:creator>John Liechty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article.  I believe Ms. Herber missed a typo that materially changes the meaning of a statement in her last paragraph.  The sentence that reads:  &quot;That way, advisors’ revenues are entirely at the mercy of the markets, but they still have enough skin in the game that clients pay noticeably lower fees when their portfolios are down.&quot;  I believe &quot;are entirely&quot; should read &quot;are not&quot;.  Otherwise, the statement is inconsistent with the thesis of her article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.  I believe Ms. Herber missed a typo that materially changes the meaning of a statement in her last paragraph.  The sentence that reads:  &#8220;That way, advisors’ revenues are entirely at the mercy of the markets, but they still have enough skin in the game that clients pay noticeably lower fees when their portfolios are down.&#8221;  I believe &#8220;are entirely&#8221; should read &#8220;are not&#8221;.  Otherwise, the statement is inconsistent with the thesis of her article.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Problem With Retainers by Shaun</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2009/08/03/the-problem-with-retainers/comment-page-1/#comment-7314</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angie,

I&#039;d be interested in hearing more about the split retainer/AUM fee structure too.  I&#039;ve been contemplating doing this for some time, but haven&#039;t found a lot of research on similar fee structures.  Any suggestions on where I could find this data would be a tremendous help.

Thanks,

Shaun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angie,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in hearing more about the split retainer/AUM fee structure too.  I&#8217;ve been contemplating doing this for some time, but haven&#8217;t found a lot of research on similar fee structures.  Any suggestions on where I could find this data would be a tremendous help.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Shaun</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Problem With Retainers by John Comer</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2009/08/03/the-problem-with-retainers/comment-page-1/#comment-7237</link>
		<dc:creator>John Comer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angie,

Interesting blog.  Do you know if anyone is doing more extensive research on your perception?  I could easily see some clients feeling that the advisor is not sharing in the pain.  I wonder if that is the most common reaction of clients.

One take-away from this article for me is the importance of talking about your fees with clients on a regular basis.  If you have had four annual conversations with your clients about how their portfolio has gone up and your fee has stayed the same, I would expect fewer of the clients to complain when their portfolio goes down, the advisor is doing more work and the fee stays the same.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angie,</p>
<p>Interesting blog.  Do you know if anyone is doing more extensive research on your perception?  I could easily see some clients feeling that the advisor is not sharing in the pain.  I wonder if that is the most common reaction of clients.</p>
<p>One take-away from this article for me is the importance of talking about your fees with clients on a regular basis.  If you have had four annual conversations with your clients about how their portfolio has gone up and your fee has stayed the same, I would expect fewer of the clients to complain when their portfolio goes down, the advisor is doing more work and the fee stays the same.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Power of Permanence by David Bloch</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2009/02/20/the-power-of-permanence/comment-page-1/#comment-3066</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bloch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 22:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a great idea but what if your firm is the new kid on the block?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a great idea but what if your firm is the new kid on the block?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Tough Love on Year-End Bonuses by EricaL</title>
		<link>http://thefasttrackblog.com/2008/12/09/tough-love-on-year-end-bonuses/comment-page-1/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>EricaL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonus and salary are a result of achievement. Of course with any bonus at the end of the year comes with taxes. And news of taxes on bonuses would weigh down the market. But Obama announcing that they would force the American taxpayer to buy all those toxic assets swung things around in a heartbeat. Smart business will reward those that are hardworking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonus and salary are a result of achievement. Of course with any bonus at the end of the year comes with taxes. And news of taxes on bonuses would weigh down the market. But Obama announcing that they would force the American taxpayer to buy all those toxic assets swung things around in a heartbeat. Smart business will reward those that are hardworking.</p>
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